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cheating in voting machines using a memory card

cheating voting using memory card

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Did anyone else catch this last night on the local news? In regards to problems with a voting machine and replacing the memory card at a Duluth polling place...... Seemed a little fishy to me.

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In which by the way happened to be one of the last polling areas to submit there election results......................


dude, provide the link.
The top result for that search is pdd itself. And I'm not going to go trolling the results to find out what you're talking about.

It would have had to been at a poorly run polling site. I worked a polling station and any monkey business would have been caught pretty easily.


heh. edge said "dude."


I can attest to Edge's strong, overseeing eyes at my polling place. He had everything moving very fluid...


A couple of students from Princeton already found they could easily break into an electronic voting machine, install a virus from a memory card, replace the original, and return the machine to its original setup in less than a minute.

Their findings are here: http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/

Sidenote: this is merely a proof-of-concept. This does not mean this has happened in any polling areas (that we know of, at least).


There is no link, that's why i'm asking if anyone else witnessed what i am talking about..... Im pretty positive I was watching Ch. 6 news.. then again i was switching stations so am not positive it was Ch. 6 news... The reporter asked if there were any problems at the polling station and the guy responded "we had some problems with a voting machine, then we replaced the memory card and it fixed the problem." This stood out in my mind because the 2 names that were mentioned working the polling station were odd to me... Diklich and Cox. I then read in the News Tribune precinct 14 was the second to last to turn in their results.... City Clerk Jeff Cox. I am neither crazy, nor am I a conspiracy theorist. I know what I saw... Just wondering if anyone else caught it.


I was a poll watcher Tuesday and can't imagine how any funny business could happen without anyone noticing. There were half a dozen election judges at my precinct, besides eagle-eyed me. The election judges, I believe, represent both major parties, so as to ensure all voters being treated equally at the polls. I know at the precinct I was watching, at least one judge was Republican, because he told me, and another was DFL, b/c I saw her later at the big bash at the DECC and we hugged each other in joy. I think you must have misheard or misunderstood what the person was saying.


I know what i saw... it was on the news, many people saw it.... but what some people don't know is that you can cheat on an election using a memory card on certain machines...

Others watching the news did not pay any attention to the fact that he stated that THE POLLING AREA changed out a memory card.. But I happened to catch it and thought it was odd.

Check out this link for how to cheat using a memory card on a Diebold machine:

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/5921.html


I remember hearing something on the news about replacing a memory card - don't remember which station. But I also thought that was odd that that was the way to get it back up and running.


Well then don't you agree that this needs to get into the public spotlight?

Why did Precinct 14 change out a memory card? And why is noone else yet discussing it except for on perfectduluthday.com?


Wrekt -- maybe you want to contact both the Coleman and the Franken campaigns. If anyone is going to be interested in voting irregularities this week, and will act if it affects one of them adversely, it's going to be our two US Senate candidates. Good luck.


Memory cards of all sorts (including compact flash cards, usb thumbdrives, etc) support a finite amount of reads and writes... they also are quite prone to flipping bits and causing corruption.

They could've just been replacing a bad memory card... whether or not the replacement card had been "hacked" in any way, shape, or form is unknown... and will probably remain that way. Diebold is known for keeping their systems closed to independent auditors. If a Diebold machine has problems, you have to call Diebold to get it fixed.


Wrekt: Do you remember who the reporter was discussing this on Tuesday night?


It was a male reporter, interviewing a man by the name of Diklich and Cox @ the polling station, Precinct 14. Pretty positive it was Ch. 6 news


I recall the names of the person getting interviewed because me and my buddy chuckled at the names he mentioned, Diklich and Cox


I saw that blip on Channel 6 on election night, too--I can't recall the reporter's name, but he's one of the newer ones on Channel 6, kind of young, tall, & lanky with dark brown hair. He was reporting from City Hall, if memory serves right, and it was fairly well-on into the evening.

I didn't get a conspiratorial vibe off the report--to me, it just sounded like a counting machine had malfunctioned and a faulty memory card was the cause. But who knows?


So that is 3 people on PDD who confirms seeing that short segment on the local news.

I would like to know the name of the reporter as well. Also, Mr. Diklich and Mr. Cox down @ the city clerks office should be interviewed on the news as to why exactly the memory card was replaced.

And that video clip from election night needs to be aired again. Who will help me?


Well, here's some advice I can give. Email NorthlandNewsCenter about the story and see if they can lead you in the right direction. They may even be able to give you the email address of which reporter did the story. Most-likely it was either Joel Runck or Trevor Roy.


I just want a fair election, and seeing things like this have to make me question whether or not the Senate Race was rigged. I mean really..

I will dig deeper into this if noone else will.


You just keep on digging there Wrekt boy. See what you come up with and let us all know.

The fishy part (also covered by the DNT) is how low Franken's votes were in our region comparatively speaking. I agree with the logic about why this could have happened ... but ... I mean, St. Louis County also had some election regularities a couple of years ago resulting in the INCUMBENT county attorney being falsely afforded an election that actually went (after a recount fight) to Melanie Ford. NATURALLY, said county attorney is now running the county board so ...

Corruption? Conflict of interest? Election stealing? Here? Never!


I will let you all know what I come up with, OK Mr. Renquist? I will.... :)

But I'm pretty sure this will all resurface regardless...


I have been posting about this for a few years now.

Put down the techno and start paying attention.


Yes, Adam, many have been talking about it for years(the fact that you can change results electronically)

I do pay good attention, that's why i noticed on the local news, him stating that he changed out the memory card, admitted to changing out the memory card.. and i thought it was fishy due to knowing what "you have been posting for years now"...


What should be most curious is most (all?) voting machines in St. Louis County are optical scan.


Any memory card would be used to keep track of numbers during the day as ballots are fed in. At the end of the night three receipts are printed with all the totals and signed by 6 election judges, all the paper ballots are sealed and each sealed packet is signed by at least 4 judges. I could imagine a memory card going bad and needing replacement, but doing so means all the ballots previously fed into the machine would need to be re-fed under close supervision. There are no Diabold machines in Duluth or St. Louis Co. It is optical scanning or hand count. Any significant irregularities are kept track of in an incident log, so I would actually talk to the City Clerk's office and ask if you can see the incident log for that precinct.

And yeah, as someone said above, the election judges are drawn evenly from the major parties to help keep an eye on one another.

As we are going to have a hand recount anyways it should be pretty easy to find out if there was any significant wrong doing by keeping an eye on the current totals and the final totals.

MN is generally a good governance state, and while in any system there is potential for abuse I think it would be harder than normal here, especially with paper ballots.


How do you know there are no Diebold Machines in St. Louis County whatsoever?


St. Louis county contracts exclusively with ES&S for their voting machines, whether they are the touchscreen model (iVotronic) or the optical scan machine (Model 100). Look at their elections website.


I googled 'ES&S iVotronic optical scan machine hack'

Hackable and also prone to high error rate... but looks like not hackable by a memory card.

Perhaps Diklich and Cox aren't crooks afterall.

Dammit, I really thought I was on to something here..... :)


Pssst...Jeff!


What, Don?


I think they're onto us.


I know. I'm frightened.


Man, I hope that phone doesn't ring.


Haha. I bet you guys were really getting worried. Sorry I spelled your name wrong... Donald.


Don't get me wrong however, I'm still really suspicious...


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